lot more outrage the past 10, 20 years. >> that is michigan governor rick snyder and emergency manager kevyn orr last hour talking about what next for the once mighty motor city. now the largest history in u.s. history to ever file for bankruptcy protection. the former heartbeat of america and the birth place of the auto industry is now in financial free-fall. in the heat of the 2012 presidential election president obama made a promise to bring detroit back from the brink. >> we refuse to throw in the towel and do nothing. we refuse to let detroit go bankrupt. i bet on american workers and american ingenuity and three years later, that bet is paying off in a big way. >> general motors got $50 billion of government support to help its way through bankruptcy. so far, nobody is offering detroit anything. >> the question now how do you save a city whose population

plummeted from a peak of about 2 million in the 1950s to just 700,000 today. what happens to the people whose hometown has 78,000 abandoned buildings just waiting to be demolished and where does the money come from to pay off 1 hundr hundr0 00,000 plus creditors. >> everything you got to wonder whether you're going to get a paycheck. >> my husband and i have no incoming money in because we are retired from the police department of detroit. >> i think the people in detroit are afraid. we don't know what is going to happen. >> joining me now, nathan. thank you both for being here this morning. >> thank you so much. >> thanks for having us.

>> nathan, i want to run through a few staestistics that tell th story. 40% of street lights don't work and half of detroit parks have closed since 2008 and schools closed since 2004. bring us up to speed how we got to this point. >> this is a story of decades of decline. we are talking about an issue that really dates back to the 1950s when the city was 2 million people and it comes all the way to today when we have got 700,000 people. you could cite racial issues of the 1960s. you could cite suburban -- increase of suburban communities and shrunken tax base and crime. what got us to the financial brink of financial sdastdisaste the city's spending has gotten out of control and put us into this position. >> brennan, you spent a lot of

time in the trenches with the firefighters while making your documentary. the head of the police and fire pension fund has said this is war, vowing to fight any default of the city's obligation. what kind of impact could that have for the people who work for the city of detroit? >> first of all, no one has any idea. everyone is in speculation mode today and the next few days what about what this is going to mean. i think pensions. there has been no direct threat mentioned to pensions. there has been no comment either way on what this means. i think it's a little premature to talk about war. obviously, a cut to anyone's pension would be, you know, detrimental, but these guys don't work for the salary. they work for the pension. but i think, you know, we are not far enough into this to know what is going to happen and it's not necessarily going to be a bad thing. >> that's an important point about how much these pensions mean to so many people there.

nathan, could this become an incentive for the city to work out deals with its bondholders and creditors and lead to a recovery for what was once a thriving american city? >> the governor and kevyn orr say this is an opportunity for a fresh start for the city of detroit. this is the city's moment of truth. the opportunity to face decades of tlin. financial decisions have been kicked down the road for years. so if they can negotiate deals in bankruptcy with the creditors and with the bondholders and with the unions, then this could be an opportunity to finally position the city for success. no one believes that the city will, all of a sudden, be a success overnight but this could finally put the financials in the right place that allows the city to restore services. nobody really believes you when you say that the police don't come on time or that the emergency officials don't come on time. but that is the case here.

and, you know, we have an opportunity to finally get the city back on track. >> bren thahow does this news m feel today? are you mournful or optimistic? >> i'm optimistic. i think nathan got it right. the word of the moment is opportunity. this is the first time in decades that detroit now has an opportunity to be active instead of reactive. the potential here is incredible. i know that, you know, the first priority is public safety at this point and by restructuring and, you know, renegotiating with creditors, that frees up money for public safety and the things that are going to improve quality of life, trash service, street lights, police and fire for the city of detroit and that is step one. like nathan said, this isn't going to happen overnight but the key word here is opportunity, which, hey, we

haven't heard that word in years. >> brennan and nathan, thank you for your time this morning. for more on this i'd like to bring in karen finney. >> great to be with you. >> i want to start with demographic statistics in speaking to you. in 1950, 82% of the city of detroit was white. today, 82% is black. a lot of folks are concerned about the role of the state in this city that largely democratic and largely minority. why is that? >> well, look. i think the question is what actions what further action will the states take or the state take with regard to the city? i mean, clearly they are going to have to put together a plan. i think there is still a question about what is going to happen with those pensions and they are going to have to have a plan to bring the city back, but not just the infrastructure but also the spirit of the city. this is very demoralizing for people. i was reading a bunch of stories

last night. people are really scared what is going to happen not just to their pensions but this is the city where they live so a lot of questions about what happens going forward. in the press conference this morning certainly helped but i think they will continue to have questions about is the state going to let us go under? >> to that end, in the city of detroit, 18% are jobless. we are talking about people who are already in hard times in a lot of cases. how do you think this is going to impact their day-to-day lives? >> it sound like they are going to try to focus on, as they were saying, an hour wait for the police. that is -- >> inconceivable. >> it made me think of 911 is a joke back from the '90s! 58 minutes, that is unbelievable. i don't know how much worse -- i hope it doesn't get any worse for people. it sounds like they will try to focus on safety and some of those things at first. here is what i hope actually happens. i think this may spark a broader conversation. we are seeing this in a lot of

cities. this is the lars city to file for bankruptcy but not the first city to file for bankruptcy. i think it brings people back to the table to have a real conversation about the president's job act, about infrastructure, and the kinds of things that we can do to help revitalize american cities. >> in terms of the president, you know, he campaigned on bringing detroit back. is this going to have political implications for him? >> well, i certainly think lae a responsibility to help. gma chrysler are back and doing quite well and both committed to staying in the city which is wonderful but the president, i think, and the administration with other cities not just filed bankruptcy and we can't let a city go under. they say they are monitoring the situation right now. there is a little bit more interest about this city but i think we need to have that kind of attention to all of our cities that are in distress. >> karen finney, thanks so much. you can catch karen on disrupt on msnbc weekends at 4:00 p.m.

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to the body, police are reviewing his death as suspicious. joining me now for more is michelle franzen. early media reports suggest a possible suicide and investigators are waiting for a toxicology reports but some are some suspicious things. his body was found 30 miles from where he lived in quincy, massachusetts, and he was found without his wallet. what are the issues the police are zerg in on his investigation? >> they definitely say they are still investigating this as any sort of cause, whether it's homicide, suicide, nothing has been ruled out yet. as you mentioned, the autopsy report showed no visible signs of trauma. but if he was found on a walking trail, they are going to be looking at issues that, yes, he was found so far away from where he lived that that is questionable. he was found without his wallet. was it made to look like a robbery? just the circumstances surrounding his, you know, location and his death are questionable. as you mentioned, prosecutors told him on that tuesday that he

wouldn't be called. we don't know if he wasn't going to be called entirely throughout this trial but he certainly wasn't going to be called on that tuesday. then wednesday, police find his body. so a lot of questions along that route. toxicology reports have begun but those take weeks and that is what investigators will also be looking at. >> just last week, rakes spoke to reporters about claims that bulger extorted him and took his liquor store. let's take a listen to what he had to say to reporters. >> my liquor store was never for sale. never, never. that night haunts me every night. >> it certainly seemed like there was decades of animosity here. how does what happened in the past impact the investigation here or does it? >> he had the potential to be a very credible and important witness to this case. whitey bulger is facing 19 counts of murder. what rakes was supposedly going to testify about is that he owned a liquor store back in the day when bulger and his associates were allegedly, you

know, in their hey day and as rakes was telling other media and what he was supposed to testify to is that in time, bulger and his associates came into that liquor story during this time. it was profitable at the time. and in front of rakes' infant daughter he said he had a gun to his head and told he was going to hand over his liquor store basically to him and that is what he was going to testify to. >> this has been a drama trial up until this point. steven "the rifleman" bulger's key partner, had nasty words before left the stand. they are due back in court today. yesterday wasn't the first time when they are cursed each other out. is this proving to be more of a distraction or does the prosecution believe all of this is contributing to their case against bulger? >> i don't know what the prosecution is thinking. but certainly it is the expected drama that we would expect out of a case like this. i think in the weeks prior

during this trial is very sort of basic back and forth of testimony and as you mentioned, the rifleman, they hadn't seen each other in almost two decades so there was a lot of built up tension that certainly played out in the courtroom yesterday. >> makes me a little nervous to talk about that. i don't want to get a dead fish in the mail. michelle franzen, thank you for your insight on this story. coming up a look at the other stories topping the news now. more than 3,000 firefighters at the scene of a suspicious wildfire in the mountains of california. investigators say someone started the fire at 1:45 yesterday afternoon. that fire is now 15% contained. in the northeast, a rising death toll from the recent heat wave. six people have now died due to heat-related deaths. hospital emergency rooms are seeing a spike in patients as a result of the excessive heat. later this morning, in los angeles, katherine jackson is expected to testify in the

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igor, let's start with you first. congressman cohen, he created a fire storm when he deleted a tweet he sent to a beautiful 24-year-old woman saying i love you. he then said it was his daughter and made it okay. now it turns out the dna tests show that he is -- that she is not his daughter. let's take a listen. >> i loved her. did everything in the world for her. tried to show her what i can my world. i care about her. she is a very sweet young lady. for three and a half years hi a daughter and it was nice to care about somebody. >> he also tweeted this morning for those who have been understanding, supportive through this drama, not scandal, thank you. difficult to endure and with press, worse. hhmm. this is all very bizarre. what do you make of this story? >> we are living in interesting times. in addition to that you have spitzer and wineiner in detroit. it's a whole group of them.

i expect strongly a politician john edwards out of north carolina is watching the results of these elections and how this turns out very closely. i have to say it's a little troubling to me to see these men in power kind of brushing aside some of these accusations and past transgressions in many ways. i think it sends a troubling message to people across the country to victims saying this really doesn't matter all that age and we are seeing that reverberate in universities and high schools across the country where women are saying some of their accusations of sexual abuse are not taken seriously by the authorities so what does this mean for the wider culture? i think it could be troubling. >> amanda, another twist. a female asked cockcohen about tweets. the reporters later tweeted in response to a previous tweet, rep cohen apologized to me

saying it's a difficult and personal time for him right now. cohen is the one who sent provocative tweets about cyndi lauper a few months back. weiner got in trouble with twitter. what is it about these politicians putting their feet in their mouth online for everybody to see? >> cohen's response to the real claire politics reporter was unacceptable. reporters should not have to worry about how they look when they talk to a congressman and that will affect whether or not they will talk to them. i understand it was a hard day for congressman cohen. if he had said bug off, i don't want to talk to you. saying, look, you're attractive and i'm not going to talk to you is completely not related. this was sort -- i'm glad that the reporters then tweeted it out and let people know because this is something that female journalists have to deal with a lot. in the age of social media when politicians say something or anthony weiner puts up pictures that spreads a lot more and your

public life becomes a lot more public. >> bill, we have seen several politicians in the news recently who are or was involved in sexual scandal. anthony weiner is running for new york city mayor and we should mention he is leading in the polls and eliot spitzer wants to be comptroller of the city and he is also leading in the polls. >> given an opposition of this responsibility, shouldn't the job of comptroller go to someone who is showing a modicum of self-comp.troll? >> you are right. >> he didn't have a good answer to that. does this prove that the public really does not care about sex scandals after all? >> we have been forgiving politicians for scandals a long time. we elected grover cleveland in president after he had a child out of wedlock. one trapped a man and beat him for several hours and convicted

of a felony and forced out of office and he got his seat back in 1994 when he had a slogan never caring about providence. if you can deliver the good, if you can show you're competent, people forget. >> the interesting part is all of these people we are talking about are men. i wonder if we would have the same reaction if a woman tried to kind of rehabilitate herself in this way. we have not seen that yet that i can think of but it would be interesting if the gender roles were reversed would we be having a similar discussion and reaction? >> that would be interesting to see. let's switch topics to congressman peter king who says he is thinking about running for president. here he is on "morning joe" this morning. >> the main reason right now is the shift in debate. it bothers me when the leading republicans out there someone like rand paul seems more concerned about an american being killed in starbucks by a cia drone than he is about islamic terrorism.

>> igor, why is king slamming other republicans? >> you're going to see this tension. if he is serious about running for president we will have a flash back to bush foreign policy. he has a big problem with many muslims and all of the hearings he held that were slammed by folks across the spectrum. and, again, i think the party is moving in this libertarian direction with folks like ted cruz from texas, rand paul who want to see a smaller role for america, a smaller foreign policy. kind of in reaction to bush. king is the polar opposite. that tension is going to play out, i think so if he really enters 2016 seriously. >> king went on to say something about what he thinks is one of the gop's biggest problems. let's listen to that. >> i believe the republicans have managed to cut themselves off. the old reagan coalition. the operating engineers and cops

and firefighters and we have needlessly antagonized them. >> do these comments surprise you? >> no, they don't. >> don't surprise me. >> that was for bill. >> yeah. >> i'm sorry. they don't surprise me. i think the republican party is fracturing to a lot of different factions right now. what igor says is quite on point. the foreign policy issue really threatens to drive the entire republican party in two separate camps and could force a permanent split if it goes to the wire and the republican pra primary. they will not sit still and let rand paul lead the party if he is a top-tier nominee. >> does peter king have what it takes to be a viable contender in 2016? >> it seems he is thinking about running for president quite a while. we heard rumors for in this the last presidential race. it will be hard to become a

congressman from the house, from one district become president. it hasn't happened since the 1880s with james garfield so it will be tough for him if he wants to do that. >> we have to leave it there. you can find more from our panel on our website tv.msnbc.com. follow the link to thomas roberts page. thank you all for being here this morning. >> thank you. the fight over life in texas. i'll take you to the sponsor of a new bill that ties antiabortion laws to the death penalty. don't forget to weigh in on today's big question. should the massachusetts states plit sergeant be punished for releasing photos of dzhokhar senior tsarnaev's arrest.

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the landmark 2001 education bill including ending federal progress goals and letting states set their own targets for student learning. it's unclear if the bill could survive a vote in the senate. turning to texas now. the ink barely dry on governor rick perry's signature banning abortion after 20 weeks, when three republican lawmakers introduced yet another anti-abortion bill and this called a fetal abortion bill would ban abortions when heartbeat is detected normally around six weeks of pregnancy. only one other state bans abortion after six weeks and that is north dakota and currently that law is challenged in the courts as uninstitutional. texas new bill would require doctors to determine whether a fetal heartbeat exists before legally performing an abortion. here is what governor rick perry said yesterday upon signing the ban into law. >> it is our responsibility and duty to give voice to the unborn, the individuals whose survival is at stake.

this bill lives up to that responsibility. >> joining me now is state representative harold dutton, a democrat from texas and not to be outdone he has introduced a bill that would block anti-abortion laws until the death penalty is abolished. thank you for being here. >> thank you for inviting me. >> i want to get your response to the new six-week abortion bill. do you think it stands a chance of making it through this special session? >> well, the legislation really has two separate parts. one is the 20-week ban. but the other part of, which is far more onerous, creates hurdles for abortion clinics that we anticipate will result in fewer clinics obviously and so what it does is indirectly, it does what supreme court says you can't do directly and that is provide -- eliminates the options for people in texas to have abortions at all.

>> but in terms of this particular six-week bill we are hearing about, is this a reach even in texas or is there a realistic possibility this could move through as well? well, the bill was signed already by the governor, i believe, yesterday, and so it is the law in texas at the moment. however, i suspect that that law is going to be challenged by a lot of the other groups that are opposed to it and so i don't think the final word has been heard on this. >> now, texas republicans overwhelmingly support life except when it comes to the death penalty. the state leads the nation in executions. so given that relate, you're in texas. these are your colleagues. can you explain how there's such a premium placed on the life on one hand and not on the other? >> well, i think it's, you know, it's a number of people here who happen to be antiintellectually

challenged in the challenge that all life is precious. the principle most of them employ is one that says there is a life principle that has to be maintained and, as a consequence, they apply that to abortion. however, when it comes to capital punishment and the death penalty, most of them don't even see how they happen to be contradictory in terms of their intellectual prowess. it's interesting that when i proposed this bill or what i did is actually proposed an amendment to the abortion bill, many of them came up to me afterwards, after voting against the amendment, of course, saying that they felt a little uncomfortable and i said, well, that is what i hoped would happen, that somehow or another, this bill or this amendment would prick the conscience of

these people who only want to look at the sanctity of life it comes to being born. >> most of the abortion clinics will be forced to close and five of them meet the same standards as hospital style surgical centers. courts only blocked arizona and georgia and idaho. are you hopeful that the courts will step in in this case? >> i think that's what is going to happen here in texas. i think that eventually i think the proponents of the bill is what they anticipate because i believe that what they are attempting to do is get this before the u.s. supreme court in an attempt to overturn roe versus wade because i think they sense that there's a sensitivity in the u.s. supreme court to that kind of a challenge now, and so i think we are going to see a number of challenges

throughout this process before the final word is heard and i think ultimately that's going to be with the u.s. supreme court. >> sir, qira recent number of ps show that americans support laws restricting abortions in the second trimester which includes in 20 weeks. what is your response to those who say this is just doing the will of the people? >> well, the principles out of roe versus wade obviously indicates that 24 weeks is the time period between -- beyond which you cannot have an abortion. texas and many other states have changed that from 24 to 20 weeks. but as you said at the outset, there are a number of people now trying to change it to maybe perhaps six weeks. at some point, we have got to decide in this country whether or not we are going to have abortions at all and i suspect that that is going to come by virtue of a challenge to the u.s. supreme court.

personally, you know, i think that a person, a woman, obviously, ought to have the right to decide, make this decision herself. but i still don't think the last word is heard on it. >> all right. texas state representative harold dutton, thank you for your time this morning. >> thank you as well. today's producer's pick comt courtesy of our team as summer play list. mayor rahm emanuel was jamming at the taste of chicago last week. he is apparently is being unaware he is captured on cell phone video. he is rolling up his tie and shirt sleeves and the mayor is no stranger to cutting a rug. remember, he took ballet lessons as a child. to see more of that video, head to thomas roberts facebook and twitter pages. a-a-a.

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we asked you answered -- should the massachusetts state police sergeant be punished for releasing photos of dzhokhar tsarnaev's arrest. tony said yes. he took an oath to serve and protect. alexander weighed in -- he should not be punished. he's a murder, not a rock star. from rob din, two wrongs do not

make a right. releasing any evidence, et cetera has to be against police rules, could jeopardize case. keep the comments coming on twitter or facebook. across the pond growing anticipation for the arrival of the royal baby. now we are learning that the due date and even the hospital where the duchess of cambridge could give birth could all just be smoke an mirror distractions. for the last week global media and royal watchers have been camped outside of london's st. mayor re's hospital in hopes that they'll catch the first glimpse of the royal baby but could the duchess of cambridge actually be planning to give birth in her hometown of redding some 30 miles away? joining me now, neal shon, a royal watcher. what are you hearing about when and where the duchess could give birth? >> oh, let me tell you, we have been outside that hospital so long, it seems like an episode of clee patriopatra back-to-bac.

i feel like i live there. i think it is just a rumor. you can't -- obviously if an emergency happened that would be the case but they've done so much preplanning in to this. very fine detail. i think it's kind of given to get us worked up again. no, i firmly believe it will be in st. mayor's hospital where the births of prince harry and william took place, also. >> for all of us immediate wra complaining about how long we have to wait, i'm sure no one is probably more ready than kate. even the queen is ready, she wants to go on holiday. >> the poor lady herself, katherine, we're in the heat wave here as well, so it is phenomenal. must sob uncomfortable for her. there is the queen, tiara, crown, saying come on, i want to go on holiday!

we all want to go on holiday. we all thought it was going to be last weekend. then we were told it is going to be wednesday. today we woke up with the news that it is definitely going to be today. today. at this time coming up ten to 5:00 in the evening, we're all getting -- i have to go back down there in a half-an-hour. we'll just be playing knots and crosses with each other again. >> how would you compare this royal baby watch to the birth of prince william some 30 years ago now? >> obviously i was a child myself at this point. >> of course. >> we all were. the thing is, i think obviously it is more of a business now and a more serious note because you can see memorabilia coming out a lot more, very clever marketing. not just really in memorabilia of things you can buy but even companies the way they're sort of saying we are expecting you. it could be an airline ad in newspapers, things like that. everybody's sort of cashing in

on this. there is a definite frenzy here. i have to say, our beautiful american visitors here in are incredibly excited. there are american people down there lining the streets also desperate and anxious to see some kind of news. we got news today the prebookings for the opening at buckingham palace are also on the increase. there is a definite buzz, for sure. >> we americans do love a celebrity baby. thank you so much for your time. that wraps things up for me. "now" with alex wagner is next.

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will the motor city roar again? it's friday, july 19th, and this is "now." it is the end of an era for the motor city. after half a sent riff slow decline, detroit is broke. yesterday it became the largest city ever to file for bankruptcy with an estimated $18 billion in debt. the city owes money to over 100,000 creditors. >> currently those creditors have a situation where they don't know what they're going to get paid and if they'll get paid at all. going through this process will allow us to give them some certainty to say this is a debt that can and will be paid. >> with a chapter 9 now filed, the fate of the decaying

metropolis will now be in the hands after federal judge. kevin orr says nothing will change in regard to city services and paybacks but one of the biggest and controversial issues to be worked out in court is the fate of benefits for nearly 10,000 city employees an pensions for 20,000 retirees. orr contends he recommended the chapter 9 filing for the safety and welfare of detroit's citizens. >> does anybody think it is okay to have 40-year-old trees growing through the roofs of dilapidated houses? does anybody think that they should call the police and not be able to come on time because they're already out on calls? >> once the fourth largest city in america, detroit has now fallen to 18th. the city's population has dropped by 63% since 1950 from nearly 2 million residents to around 700,000. 78,000 buildings are abandoned and the median home value is just $45,000, meaning that it is lower than theia